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AF & "Dr. S" resume
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> Letters in the Podhunk >Picayune, however, are not.
In the What?? Where can I subscribe to this? Jan
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Sorry you feel that way. My peer-reviewers have yet to object to a complete listing of my media mentions and appearances. And, thank you for visiting http://doctoryourself.com , the net’s largest quack-run, darn-near peer-reviewed, alternative health information website! We are considering a "frequent quacker" card, and you, Aaron, have been a guest at my site so many times that you may be among the first to qualify. — Over 125 articles (indexed by topic, or keyword with an on-site search engine) plus nearly 1,000 scientific references on nutritional therapeutics are posted at http://doctoryourself.com Links to other clinical nutrition and alternative medicine sites are provided. In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.10006241513571.13728-
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> =2Eedu> >=20 > > Letters in the Podhunk > >Picayune, however, are not.=20 >=20 >=20 > In the What?? Where can I subscribe to this? >=20 > Jan > I was, of course, making up a facetious title.=20 > Here’s some gems from his actual list of "publications" on his "CV." > "Groups caution on vaccination risks" Rochester, NY Democrat and > Chronicle, > September 26, 1999, page 1-B.=20 > Quack Doctor: Confessions of a Charlatan (1998) > Audiobook and published on line at > http://www.doctoryourself.com=20 > (listing a self-published web page is outrageous!) > "Nutrition expert says good health is a natural" > Interview in the Brockport Post, > November 28, 1996. Photograph.=20 > Letter to the Editor, The Impulse: The Student > Publication of New York Chiropractic > College, 13:7 June-July, 1995, p3.=20 > Letter to The Stylus, SUNY Brockport=B9s Student > Publication, 82:21, April 5, 1995.=20 > "Hamlin natural healer publishes guide" > Hamlin-Clarkson Herald, February 6, 1995=20 > "It will be easier to buy a handgun than a bottle of > vitamins" Letter to the Editor, > Hamlin-Clarkson Herald and The Suburban News October > 18, 1993, p 4=20 > "Speaker lists seven ways to good health" Albion > Advertiser, February 23, 1983=20 > "Man advocates better diet for improved health" The > Batavia Daily News, November 5, > 1981=20 > "Hamlin Man Teaches Natural Health" Suburban News, > March 17, 1981, page 3=20 > "Saccharin as harmful now as it was in 1908." Letter > in the Rochester, NY Democrat > and Chronicle, June 1, 1978.=20 > Even in the business world, this would be called "padding your resume" at > best. to imply that interviews in local papers, letters to the editor of > local or student papers, etc. are "publications" on an academic CV is pure > fraud. > AF
– Over 125 articles (indexed by topic, or keyword with an on-site search engine) plus nearly 1,000 scientific references on nutritional therapeutics are posted at http://doctoryourself.com Links to other clinical nutrition and alternative medicine sites are provided. Before you buy.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And you have very right to be PROUD !!And don’t let anyone put you down!! > GGGRRRHHH! > Jan >It’s fine to be proud of a magazine interview. I’m suitably impressed at >Doc Saul’s PR skills. ME News is certainly pretty big time in the New >Age biz, and I imagine this puts Saul in the company of other famous >hucksters like Sai Baba. >To be coy I should counter that I have been quoted extensively in the >New York Times, which has something like 10000 times the circulation of >MEN. But under no rubric in the academic world is an interview with a >magazine something an academic professional would list on a CV under >"publications." The proper heading, if one really wants to toot one’s own >horn as a public figure, is "Media Exposure" or something of the sort. >Me, I don’t even bother to put my interviews and citations in the press on >my CV. Don’t need ‘em. >But golly gee, on the cover of ME News, wowwee. The only time I’ve ever >been on the cover of a magazine was on an old issue of "Wines of Spain >News," a trade publication, when I achieved stellar sales results for >specialty Spanish wines in the 1980s. I guess it’s not as cool as milking >cows for a living, but maybe I should put it on my CV. Then maybe I’d >be seen as accomplished and experienced like "Doctor" Saul. >AF
Oh, *MUST* we go through this??? I ain’t wrote a single thang…cant even rite cheer….but I am remember by a lot of children, many who still come to see me….and STILL love me.We all have a place in life. I couldn’t do what you do and you couldn’t do what I have done. That’s the way it is. Having said that I can understand where both of you are coming from. I respect you both. And this herein ain’t no place to be stabbin one ta other!! STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT!!! Jan
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I *still* get mail from that Mother Earth interview 16 years ago. The best part of it is that people will write and tell me how my book was the one they most frequently loaned out to friends and family; now they want another one; stuff like that. The same is starting to happen at the website. We are planning a "Reader’s Say" page soon, filled with non-controlled, non-double-blind, totally anecdotal orthomolecular medicine success stories. Folks, please feel free to send in yours to The Mother Earth interview is posted at http://doctoryourself.com/motherearth.html And for Aaron: Other Mother Earth Interviewees have included John Holt, Harold W. Manner, William D. Kelley, and Linus Pauling. You’ve got to wonder what they ever saw in me. — Over 125 articles (indexed by topic, or keyword with an on-site search engine) plus nearly 1,000 scientific references on nutritional therapeutics are posted at http://doctoryourself.com Links to other clinical nutrition and alternative medicine sites are provided. In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.10006251714210.17681- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And you have very right to be PROUD !!And don’t let anyone put you down!! > GGGRRRHHH! > Jan > It’s fine to be proud of a magazine interview. I’m suitably impressed at > Doc Saul’s PR skills. ME News is certainly pretty big time in the New > Age biz, and I imagine this puts Saul in the company of other famous > hucksters like Sai Baba. > To be coy I should counter that I have been quoted extensively in the > New York Times, which has something like 10000 times the circulation of > MEN. But under no rubric in the academic world is an interview with a > magazine something an academic professional would list on a CV under > "publications." The proper heading, if one really wants to toot one’s own > horn as a public figure, is "Media Exposure" or something of the sort. > Me, I don’t even bother to put my interviews and citations in the press on > my CV. Don’t need ‘em. > But golly gee, on the cover of ME News, wowwee. The only time I’ve ever > been on the cover of a magazine was on an old issue of "Wines of Spain > News," a trade publication, when I achieved stellar sales results for > specialty Spanish wines in the 1980s. I guess it’s not as cool as milking > cows for a living, but maybe I should put it on my CV. Then maybe I’d > be seen as accomplished and experienced like "Doctor" Saul. > AF
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You proceed from a false assumption, Aaron. Given that I am a quack, what do you expect? I choose to include my appearances in print and on the media. I’m an old hand at both. You were at the prom when I was the cover story of a national magazine. People I’d never met recognized me even in a small town in Iowa. What a blast. I am proud of that interview to this day, and for folks who might want to read it, here it is: http://doctoryourself.com/motherearth.html — Over 125 articles (indexed by topic, or keyword with an on-site search engine) plus nearly 1,000 scientific references on nutritional therapeutics are posted at http://doctoryourself.com Links to other clinical nutrition and alternative medicine sites are provided. In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.10006241843020.89- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> (In regards to my Mother Earth News Plowboy Interview (Jan-Feb 1984, > Issue #85, p 17-23): I certainly did not write the excellent questions > for this long interview, but I am the author of the answers. > How much more disingenuous can you get? It is simply not done to list > *interviews* of any sort where you are the subject of the interview on an > academic CV under the heading "publications." If you were really a PhD > and a professor you’d know that. > AF
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>You proceed from a false assumption, Aaron. Given that I am a quack, >what do you expect? I choose to include my appearances in print and on >the media. I’m an old hand at both. You were at the prom when I was >the cover story of a national magazine. People I’d never met >recognized me even in a small town in Iowa. What a blast. I am proud >of that interview to this day, and for folks who might want to read it, >here it is: http://doctoryourself.com/motherearth.html
And you have very right to be PROUD !!And don’t let anyone put you down!! GGGRRRHHH! Jan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Over 125 articles (indexed by topic, or keyword with an on-site >search engine) plus nearly 1,000 scientific references on nutritional >therapeutics are posted at http://doctoryourself.com Links to other >clinical nutrition and alternative medicine sites are provided. >In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.10006241843020.89- > > (In regards to my Mother Earth News Plowboy Interview (Jan-Feb 1984, > > Issue #85, p 17-23): I certainly did not write the excellent >questions > > for this long interview, but I am the author of the answers. > How much more disingenuous can you get? It is simply not done to list > *interviews* of any sort where you are the subject of the interview >on an > academic CV under the heading "publications." If you were really a >PhD > and a professor you’d know that. > AF >Before you buy.
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Cite myself? What a great idea. I’ll have a ways to go before I beat Quackwatch-clone Victor Herbert, who cited himself over 15 times in one article that my Health Issues students read and dissected every semester. And it’s true that Fox truly would not claim his newsgroup postings. They are all deleted, so citing them would be something of a snark hunt. Aaron is now deleting his posts the same day he makes them. Check it out: Today is June 23. He might be embarassed by what he says in them; that could explain his evident haste to delete. — Over 125 articles (indexed by topic, or keyword with an on-site search engine) plus nearly 1,000 scientific references on nutritional therapeutics are posted at http://doctoryourself.com Links to other clinical nutrition and alternative medicine sites are provided. > In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.10006231255130.26026-
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Pardon me, Moses, but as far as I know "Doctor" Saul has never >published a letter to the editor in a scientific journal, nor has he >ever published a peer-reviewed academic article. His "letters to the >editor" are all from small-town community newspapers. To claim them >as anything resembling a formal "publication" is just a joke. >I’d be the first to concede that letters to the editor published, >say, in JAMA or the Lancet are significant publications. Letters in >the Podhunk Picayune, however, are not. I’ve never written a letter >to the editor of any newspaper that wasn’t published, > Good thing, too. Unpublished newspapers reach a very small audience. >and I’ve done it probably half a dozen times to papers much larger >than any paper in which Saul has sounded off. I wouldn’t dream of >even mentioning these minor efforts in a curriculum vitae. I’d be >embarassed. It would be like claiming newsgrou postings as >publications. > Now you’ve done it. He’ll become a mini-Toddie-Castrato, citing > himself on deja.com. > — David Wright :: wright at ibnets.com :: Not a Spokesman for Anyone > These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct. > The Millennium actually begins on January 1, 2001 > So Get Ready for a Second Round of Parties
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(In regards to my Mother Earth News Plowboy Interview (Jan-Feb 1984, Issue #85, p 17-23): I certainly did not write the excellent questions for this long interview, but I am the author of the answers. http://doctoryourself.com/motherearth.html — Over 125 articles (indexed by topic, or keyword with an on-site search engine) plus nearly 1,000 scientific references on nutritional therapeutics are posted at http://doctoryourself.com Links to other clinical nutrition and alternative medicine sites are provided. In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.10006241531290.13728- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My other publications are just that: publications. Anyone reading the > list can clearly see thay are in the popular press. Outside of Aaron, > I can’t imagine anyone being that interested in reading them. > Nevertheless, I provide full references for anyone who might. > Many of them, including the Mother Earth News article, were not *written > by you,* which is what the "publications" heading in an academic CV means. > AF
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >=2Eedu> >=20 > > Letters in the Podhunk > >Picayune, however, are not.=20 >=20 >=20 > In the What?? Where can I subscribe to this? >=20 > Jan >I was, of course, making up a facetious title.=20
And that’s the resaon for my question.=40 Jan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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>Pardon me, Moses, but as far as I know "Doctor" Saul has never >published a letter to the editor in a scientific journal, nor has he >ever published a peer-reviewed academic article. His "letters to the >editor" are all from small-town community newspapers. To claim them >as anything resembling a formal "publication" is just a joke. >I’d be the first to concede that letters to the editor published, >say, in JAMA or the Lancet are significant publications. Letters in >the Podhunk Picayune, however, are not. I’ve never written a letter >to the editor of any newspaper that wasn’t published,
Good thing, too. Unpublished newspapers reach a very small audience. >and I’ve done it probably half a dozen times to papers much larger >than any paper in which Saul has sounded off. I wouldn’t dream of >even mentioning these minor efforts in a curriculum vitae. I’d be >embarassed. It would be like claiming newsgrou postings as >publications.
Now you’ve done it. He’ll become a mini-Toddie-Castrato, citing himself on deja.com. — David Wright :: wright at ibnets.com :: Not a Spokesman for Anyone These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct. The Millennium actually begins on January 1, 2001 So Get Ready for a Second Round of Parties
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<snip> >I’d be the first to concede that letters to the editor published, say, in >JAMA or the Lancet are significant publications. Letters in the Podhunk >Picayune, however, are not. I’ve never written a letter to the editor of >any newspaper that wasn’t published, and I’ve done it probably half a >dozen times to papers much larger than any paper in which Saul has sounded >off. I wouldn’t dream of even mentioning these minor efforts in a >curriculum vitae. I’d be embarassed. It would be like claiming newsgrou >postings as publications.
pasts years have been negated due to new findings, new and better studies and what’s more, the future will probably bring more light on the some of the very studies/findings of today. C. Bond
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Actually, I was referring to the 1985 Mother Earth News interview, a seven-page cover story read by nearly 2 million people. The "face in the magazine" was a full-page color photo of yours quacking truly. For years, I received thousands and thousands of letters as a result, and several thousand copies of my first book (Doctor Yourself) were sold. Just for fun, may I mention that a copy went to Dogpatch, Arkansas (a real place, by the way). A Saudi Arabian Ambassador bought several. Life certainly is interesting. My other publications are just that: publications. Anyone reading the list can clearly see thay are in the popular press. Outside of Aaron, I can’t imagine anyone being that interested in reading them. Nevertheless, I provide full references for anyone who might. These are recent publications in the Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients: http://doctoryourself.com/bvitamins.html http://doctoryourself.com/townreview.html — Over 125 articles (indexed by topic, or keyword with an on-site search engine) plus nearly 1,000 scientific references on nutritional therapeutics are posted at http://doctoryourself.com Links to other clinical nutrition and alternative medicine sites are provided. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > DS> I wish you all the best, my friend. To quote Pete Townshend: "I > DS> was a face in the magazine while you were still playing with your > DS> plasticine." > AF> I read your resume, where you claim every letter to the editor and > AF> interview in the Podhunk Picayune as a "publication." I see no major > It is tacky for some one to say that a "letter to the editor" is > an article publication. > Maybe, Dr. S. needs a "Letter to the Editor" section in his resume? > .. End of message 22 Jun 00 23:49 > ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR]
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DS> I wish you all the best, my friend. To quote Pete Townshend: "I DS> was a face in the magazine while you were still playing with your DS> plasticine." AF> I read your resume, where you claim every letter to the editor and AF> interview in the Podhunk Picayune as a "publication." I see no major It is tacky for some one to say that a "letter to the editor" is an article publication. Maybe, Dr. S. needs a "Letter to the Editor" section in his resume? .. End of message 22 Jun 00 23:49 ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR]
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Moses here: It is often extremely interesting to read the letters to the editor of scientific journals. Some letters to the editor have changed my mind about I had read in the previous issue. Perhaps a little overstatement on "Dr." S part and perhaps a little straining of the dead fruit fly from the wine by George. Don’t forget the AF’s camel….his/her nose is in the tent. Don’t forget to swallow the 2X priced med with it’s sideeffects. How many have been killed by NSAID’s. Who sold/prescribed Phen phen!? Sincerely Moses Clarke Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com