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<<<JB, are you a doctor, where is your area of expertese (excuse my spelling!  :)) and what is your reason (besides that you think its garbage) in hurting Chiropractic?>>> John Badanes is a chiropractor. And a licensed acupuncturist. Richard E. Rogovin, D.C.  * Origin: Medical System Mu

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Badanes) writes: >   DrjackH: >   You can contact either the ACA (american Chiropractic Assoc.) or the >   ICA (international Chiropractic Assoc.) they both have litterature   >   they would be glad to mail you.                        ^^^^^^   >   John Badanes, DC: >   :Some ‘Freudian typos’ simply can NOT be ignored. Incidentally, I’m >   :giving DrjackH the benefit of the doubt that this WAS a typo, since >   :many many many chiropractors are *barely* literate. Indeed, too many >   :are ‘litterate’…getting their unconsidered Chiropractism ‘all over   >   :the carpet.’ I like the run-on sentence, too, DrjackH ;’)  A little >   :’insult to injury’ is a nice touch dontchaknow. > Duane Weed, DC: >  >To attack a man’s grammar and typos (obviously written in haste) in an >  >attempt to make him look like a fool just because you have some hangup >  >about his profession is pretty childish. >I’m sorry you feel this way, Duane…hehehe…I guess even though you >didn’t understand what I meant by ‘Freudian typo,’ your inept response >indicates that at some unconscious level, you sensed that I _was_ indeed >critical of chiropractors like yourself when I punned ‘LITTERature’ (as >in worthy to line a cat’s litter-box), referencing those chiros who >automatically and defensively promote their uenconsidered Chiropractism’ >and ‘better-than-medicinism’ no-matter (thereby getting it aell over the >carpet"). So, if you thought my comment had *anything* to to with a ‘typo,’ >you did miss the point. Or would you deny that ‘chiropractic’ has always >been more *promotional* than medical both historically and hysterically >as they LITTER the healthcare landscape with their Subluxation garbage? >Further, in as much as I did imply that DrjackH may have been part >of that large population of ‘hot-dog-eating-minds’ that comprise the >bulk of chiropractors (ie, that it was NOT a ‘typo,’ but a manifestation), >will you also pretend that the level of borderline literacy so obvious >in the chiro-community (see postings from NET chiros over the past two >years) has no bearing on their competence to responsibly manage even >a neck strain…not to mention their ability to critically evaluate >their own set of Chiropractic pseudotherapeutic algorithms which are >reflexively applied to anyone possessing a Spine? I’d be pleased to >discuss any of these Chirodigms (euphemistically called Chiropractic >Techniques) if you’re up to it. Start with the Activator Technique if >you like, since you mentioned that "[you] have nothing against it." >How does ‘Activator’ treat a neck strain, for example, and how does >*this* treatment differ if the patient has an ankle sprain, tinnitus, >or jock itch? Peep-hole want to know, Duane. >Do your parents know that you are using their computer in this >way?  Do us all a favor, JB.  Go back to `lurk’ mode and stay >there until you grow up. >Well, Duane…when you put it like that, I *certainly* understand what >you mean by childish behavior :’)  Anyway, let me suggest you ‘kill-file’ >my responses in the future since you find them useless and/or offensive. >JB.

JB, are you a doctor, where is your area of expertese (excuse my spelling!  :)) and what is your reason (besides that you think its garbage) in hurting Chiropractic? Just curious… Incidently, check Gray’s Anatomy for the nervous systems role in manageing the body of people who posess a spine.  In the healthy state or otherwise.  What, by the way is the best percentage of first time correct diagnosis in the world for the Medical profession?  Not to put them down, I happen to admire them.  I can tell you that it comes from Mayo anmd that it is under 20 percent.  How can we call that scientific.  If you are of the medical profession, check your own eye for a mote. Also, if you think we are doing such a poor job, why not check your own literature(the refereed ones) on the effectiveness of chiropractic.   As for the question of literacy, you both are wrong.  Literacy refers to the ability to read and write not to spell things correctly or have perfect grammar.  Chill out and discuss these things calmly people…we all want the same thing in the end:  patients to be made well.  * Origin: Medical System Mu

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<<<JB, are you a doctor, where is your area of expertese (excuse my spelling!  :)) and what is your reason (besides that you think its garbage) in hurting Chiropractic?>>> John Badanes is a chiropractor. And a licensed acupuncturist. Richard E. Rogovin, D.C.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Weed, D.C.) writes: >  DrjackH: >  >You can contact either the ACA (american Chiropractic Assoc.) or the >  >ICA (international Chiropractic Assoc.) they both have litterature   >  >they would be glad to mail you.                        ^^^^^^   >Some ‘Freudian typos’ simply can NOT be ignored. Incidentally, I’m >giving DrjackH the benefit of the doubt that this WAS a typo, since >many many many chiropractors are *barely* literate. Indeed, too many >are ‘litterate’…getting their unconsidered Chiropractism ‘all over   >the carpet.’ I like the run-on sentence, too, DrjackH ;’)  A little >’insult to injury’ is a nice touch dontchaknow. >I have read some pretty stupid things from some pretty small minds, JB, but >nothing as microcephalic as this.  So you hate chiropractic–Big Deal! Join >the fan club (with the rest of the dinosaur-brains.) I don’t really give a >ham what you think, and I bet there are very few people in this usegroup who >do.

A "ham?"  In any case, I care what JB thinks and I find his posts enormously refreshing — kind of a cool breeze in a desert of crap. It gives me hope. >To attack a man’s grammar and typos (obviously written in haste) in an >attempt to make him look like a fool just because you have some hangup about >his profession is pretty childish.  Do your parents know that you are using >their computer in this way?  Do us all a favor, JB.  Go back to `lurk’ mode >and stay there until you grow up.

Gosh, "Doc", I’m always sooo impressed by posters who tell other posters to "grow up."  They’re usually in a poor position to criticize. Oh, I agree that spelling flames are usually in bad taste, and I don’t write them myself, but JB has his points to make and he knows his material (unfortunately for you and the likes of you).   — David Wright, Hitachi Computer Products (America), Inc.  Waltham, MA      but you’re free to disagree, you poor deluded creature  * Origin: Medical System Munich – meds

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>>  DrjackH: >  >You can contact either the ACA (american Chiropractic Assoc.) or the >  >ICA (international Chiropractic Assoc.) they both have litterature   >  >they would be glad to mail you.                        ^^^^^^   >Some ‘Freudian typos’ simply can NOT be ignored. Incidentally, I’m >giving DrjackH the benefit of the doubt that this WAS a typo, since >many many many chiropractors are *barely* literate. Indeed, too many >are ‘litterate’…getting their unconsidered Chiropractism ‘all over   >the carpet.’ I like the run-on sentence, too, DrjackH ;’)  A little >’insult to injury’ is a nice touch dontchaknow. >I have read some pretty stupid things from some pretty small minds, JB, but >nothing as microcephalic as this.  So you hate chiropractic–Big Deal! Join >the fan club (with the rest of the dinosaur-brains.) I don’t really give a >ham what you think, and I bet there are very few people in this usegroup who >do.

A "ham?"  In any case, I care what JB thinks and I find his posts enormously refreshing — kind of a cool breeze in a desert of crap. It gives me hope. >To attack a man’s grammar and typos (obviously written in haste) in an >attempt to make him look like a fool just because you have some hangup about >his profession is pretty childish.  Do your parents know that you are using >their computer in this way?  Do us all a favor, JB.  Go back to `lurk’ mode >and stay there until you grow up.

Gosh, "Doc", I’m always sooo impressed by posters who tell other posters to "grow up."  They’re usually in a poor position to criticize. Oh, I agree that spelling flames are usually in bad taste, and I don’t write them myself, but JB has his points to make and he knows his material (unfortunately for you and the likes of you).   — David Wright, Hitachi Computer Products (America), Inc.  Waltham, MA      but you’re free to disagree, you poor deluded creature

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<<<Some ‘Freudian typos’ simply can NOT be ignored. Incidentally, I’m giving DrjackH the benefit of the doubt that this WAS a typo, since many many many chiropractors are *barely* literate. Indeed, too many are ‘litterate’…getting their unconsidered Chiropractism ‘all over the carpet.’ I like the run-on sentence, too, DrjackH ;’)  A little ‘insult to injury’ is a nice touch dontchaknow. JB.>>> JB  John Badanes  is himself a chiropractor. Richard E. Rogovin, D.C.

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>  DrjackH: >  >You can contact either the ACA (american Chiropractic Assoc.) or the >  >ICA (international Chiropractic Assoc.) they both have litterature   >  >they would be glad to mail you.                        ^^^^^^   >Some ‘Freudian typos’ simply can NOT be ignored. Incidentally, I’m >giving DrjackH the benefit of the doubt that this WAS a typo, since >many many many chiropractors are *barely* literate. Indeed, too many >are ‘litterate’…getting their unconsidered Chiropractism ‘all over   >the carpet.’ I like the run-on sentence, too, DrjackH ;’)  A little >’insult to injury’ is a nice touch dontchaknow. >JB.

I have read some pretty stupid things from some pretty small minds, JB, but nothing as microcephalic as this.  So you hate chiropractic–Big Deal! Join the fan club (with the rest of the dinosaur-brains.) I don’t really give a ham what you think, and I bet there are very few people in this usegroup who do. To attack a man’s grammar and typos (obviously written in haste) in an attempt to make him look like a fool just because you have some hangup about his profession is pretty childish.  Do your parents know that you are using their computer in this way?  Do us all a favor, JB.  Go back to `lurk’ mode and stay there until you grow up.

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>  DrjackH: >  >You can contact either the ACA (american Chiropractic Assoc.) or the >  >ICA (international Chiropractic Assoc.) they both have litterature   >  >they would be glad to mail you.                        ^^^^^^   >Some ‘Freudian typos’ simply can NOT be ignored. Incidentally, I’m >giving DrjackH the benefit of the doubt that this WAS a typo, since >many many many chiropractors are *barely* literate. Indeed, too many >are ‘litterate’…getting their unconsidered Chiropractism ‘all over   >the carpet.’ I like the run-on sentence, too, DrjackH ;’)  A little >’insult to injury’ is a nice touch dontchaknow. >JB.

I have read some pretty stupid things from some pretty small minds, JB, but nothing as microcephalic as this.  So you hate chiropractic–Big Deal! Join the fan club (with the rest of the dinosaur-brains.) I don’t really give a ham what you think, and I bet there are very few people in this usegroup who do. To attack a man’s grammar and typos (obviously written in haste) in an attempt to make him look like a fool just because you have some hangup about his profession is pretty childish.  Do your parents know that you are using their computer in this way?  Do us all a favor, JB.  Go back to `lurk’ mode and stay there until you grow up.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >   DrjackH: >   You can contact either the ACA (american Chiropractic Assoc.) or the >   ICA (international Chiropractic Assoc.) they both have litterature   >   they would be glad to mail you.                        ^^^^^^   >   John Badanes, DC: >   :Some ‘Freudian typos’ simply can NOT be ignored. Incidentally, I’m >   :giving DrjackH the benefit of the doubt that this WAS a typo, since >   :many many many chiropractors are *barely* literate. Indeed, too many >   :are ‘litterate’…getting their unconsidered Chiropractism ‘all over   >   :the carpet.’ I like the run-on sentence, too, DrjackH ;’)  A little >   :’insult to injury’ is a nice touch dontchaknow. > Duane Weed, DC: >  >To attack a man’s grammar and typos (obviously written in haste) in an >  >attempt to make him look like a fool just because you have some hangup >  >about his profession is pretty childish. >I’m sorry you feel this way, Duane…hehehe…I guess even though you >didn’t understand what I meant by ‘Freudian typo,’ your inept response >indicates that at some unconscious level, you sensed that I _was_ indeed >critical of chiropractors like yourself when I punned ‘LITTERature’ (as >in worthy to line a cat’s litter-box), referencing those chiros who >automatically and defensively promote their "unconsidered Chiropractism’ >and ‘better-than-medicinism’ no-matter (thereby getting it "all over the >carpet"). So, if you thought my comment had *anything* to to with a ‘typo,’ >you did miss the point. Or would you deny that ‘chiropractic’ has always >been more *promotional* than medical both historically and hysterically >as they LITTER the healthcare landscape with their Subluxation garbage? >Further, in as much as I did imply that DrjackH may have been part >of that large population of ‘hot-dog-eating-minds’ that comprise the >bulk of chiropractors (ie, that it was NOT a ‘typo,’ but a manifestation), >will you also pretend that the level of borderline literacy so obvious >in the chiro-community (see postings from NET chiros over the past two >years) has no bearing on their competence to responsibly manage even >a neck strain…not to mention their ability to critically evaluate >their own set of Chiropractic pseudotherapeutic algorithms which are >reflexively applied to anyone possessing a Spine? I’d be pleased to >discuss any of these Chirodigms (euphemistically called Chiropractic >Techniques) if you’re up to it. Start with the Activator Technique if >you like, since you mentioned that "[you] have nothing against it." >How does ‘Activator’ treat a neck strain, for example, and how does >*this* treatment differ if the patient has an ankle sprain, tinnitus, >or jock itch? Peep-hole want to know, Duane. >Do your parents know that you are using their computer in this >way?  Do us all a favor, JB.  Go back to `lurk’ mode and stay >there until you grow up. >Well, Duane…when you put it like that, I *certainly* understand what >you mean by childish behavior :’)  Anyway, let me suggest you ‘kill-file’ >my responses in the future since you find them useless and/or offensive. >JB.

JB, are you a doctor, where is your area of expertese (excuse my spelling!  :)) and what is your reason (besides that you think its garbage) in hurting Chiropractic? Just curious… Incidently, check Gray’s Anatomy for the nervous systems role in manageing the body of people who posess a spine.  In the healthy state or otherwise.  What, by the way is the best percentage of first time correct diagnosis in the world for the Medical profession?  Not to put them down, I happen to admire them.  I can tell you that it comes from Mayo anmd that it is under 20 percent.  How can we call that scientific.  If you are of the medical profession, check your own eye for a mote. Also, if you think we are doing such a poor job, why not check your own literature(the refereed ones) on the effectiveness of chiropractic.   As for the question of literacy, you both are wrong.  Literacy refers to the ability to read and write not to spell things correctly or have perfect grammar.  Chill out and discuss these things calmly people…we all want the same thing in the end:  patients to be made well.

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   DrjackH:    You can contact either the ACA (american Chiropractic Assoc.) or the    ICA (international Chiropractic Assoc.) they both have litterature      they would be glad to mail you.                        ^^^^^^      John Badanes, DC:    :Some ‘Freudian typos’ simply can NOT be ignored. Incidentally, I’m    :giving DrjackH the benefit of the doubt that this WAS a typo, since    :many many many chiropractors are *barely* literate. Indeed, too many    :are ‘litterate’…getting their unconsidered Chiropractism ‘all over      :the carpet.’ I like the run-on sentence, too, DrjackH ;’)  A little    :’insult to injury’ is a nice touch dontchaknow.  Duane Weed, DC:   >To attack a man’s grammar and typos (obviously written in haste) in an   >attempt to make him look like a fool just because you have some hangup   >about his profession is pretty childish. I’m sorry you feel this way, Duane…hehehe…I guess even though you didn’t understand what I meant by ‘Freudian typo,’ your inept response indicates that at some unconscious level, you sensed that I _was_ indeed critical of chiropractors like yourself when I punned ‘LITTERature’ (as in worthy to line a cat’s litter-box), referencing those chiros who automatically and defensively promote their "unconsidered Chiropractism’ and ‘better-than-medicinism’ no-matter (thereby getting it "all over the carpet"). So, if you thought my comment had *anything* to to with a ‘typo,’ you did miss the point. Or would you deny that ‘chiropractic’ has always been more *promotional* than medical both historically and hysterically as they LITTER the healthcare landscape with their Subluxation garbage? Further, in as much as I did imply that DrjackH may have been part of that large population of ‘hot-dog-eating-minds’ that comprise the bulk of chiropractors (ie, that it was NOT a ‘typo,’ but a manifestation), will you also pretend that the level of borderline literacy so obvious in the chiro-community (see postings from NET chiros over the past two years) has no bearing on their competence to responsibly manage even a neck strain…not to mention their ability to critically evaluate their own set of Chiropractic pseudotherapeutic algorithms which are reflexively applied to anyone possessing a Spine? I’d be pleased to discuss any of these Chirodigms (euphemistically called Chiropractic Techniques) if you’re up to it. Start with the Activator Technique if you like, since you mentioned that "[you] have nothing against it." How does ‘Activator’ treat a neck strain, for example, and how does *this* treatment differ if the patient has an ankle sprain, tinnitus, or jock itch? Peep-hole want to know, Duane.  >Do your parents know that you are using their computer in this  >way?  Do us all a favor, JB.  Go back to `lurk’ mode and stay  >there until you grow up. Well, Duane…when you put it like that, I *certainly* understand what you mean by childish behavior :’)  Anyway, let me suggest you ‘kill-file’ my responses in the future since you find them useless and/or offensive. JB.

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        I am a fourth year Kinesiology student at Dalhousie University who has to write a paper to defend the profession of Chiropractic, from a health promotion point of view.  I am very interested in the profession and am applying to various schools for the 1996 school year.         I am not sure what approach to take when writing this paper, I can use the Manga report or articles comparing G.P.’s and D.C.’s if anyone has any suggestions please E-mail me. (Especially any Doctors of Chiropractic).         Thank you for your time……Darren Darren MacDonald                DALHOUSIE KINESIOLOGY                   | Halifax, N.S.                   |   ^   | – Nutritional Consulting      | (902)422-2628                   | {—} | – Performance Massage         |    -  0  /-    Dalhousie University,      MMM/      School of Recreation, Physical & Health Education,        T        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada  B3H 4J5       /       (902)494-2450 –> Registrar’s Office    _/     _    (902)494-2152 –> Faculty’s Office

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  DrjackH:   >You can contact either the ACA (american Chiropractic Assoc.) or the   >ICA (international Chiropractic Assoc.) they both have litterature   >they would be glad to mail you.                        ^^^^^^ Some ‘Freudian typos’ simply can NOT be ignored. Incidentally, I’m giving DrjackH the benefit of the doubt that this WAS a typo, since many many many chiropractors are *barely* literate. Indeed, too many are ‘litterate’…getting their unconsidered Chiropractism ‘all over the carpet.’ I like the run-on sentence, too, DrjackH ;’)  A little ‘insult to injury’ is a nice touch dontchaknow. JB.

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<<<Some ‘Freudian typos’ simply can NOT be ignored. Incidentally, I’m giving DrjackH the benefit of the doubt that this WAS a typo, since many many many chiropractors are *barely* literate. Indeed, too many are ‘litterate’…getting their unconsidered Chiropractism ‘all over the carpet.’ I like the run-on sentence, too, DrjackH ;’)  A little ‘insult to injury’ is a nice touch dontchaknow. JB.>>> JB  John Badanes  is himself a chiropractor. Richard E. Rogovin, D.C.  * Origin: Medical System Mu

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You can contact either the ACA (american Chiropractic Assoc.) or the ICA (international Chiropractic Assoc.) they both have litterature they would be glad to mail you.

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