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Where else? — Over 100 articles (indexed by topic, or keyword with an on-site search engine) plus hundreds of scientific references on nutritional therapeutics are posted at http://doctoryourself.com  Links to other clinical nutrition and alternative medicine sites are provided. > You know, folks, I’ve been here the whole time reading Todd and Aaron > posts and, try as I might, I cannot see where Aaron was ever *viciously > harassed by Mr. Gastaldo > It wasn’t just here.  You didn’t read enough. > erf

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(Whoo hoo! Aaron’s post is still there!) He wrote that *there are so many smart, educated, thoughtful people trying to do legitimate work in alternative therapies* and I’d like to agree with that, and append a short list of some: Lendon Smith, MD; Jonathan Wright, MD; Edward Bach, MD; Matthew Balch, MD; Robert Atkins, MD; Ewan Cameron, MD; Benjamin Feingold, MD; Max Gerson, MD; Hans Nieper, MD; William Bates, MD; D. C. Jarvis, MD; Julian Whitaker, MD; Abram Hoffer, MD; Alan Gaby, MD; David Hawkins, MD; Warren Levin, MD; James Privitera, MD; Emanuel Cheraskin, MD; Deepak Chopra, MD; Robert F. Cathcart, M.D.; William J. McCormick, M.D.; Frederick R. Klenner, M.D.; Matthias Rath, M.D.; Wilfred Shute, M.D., and Evan Shute, M.D. — Over 100 articles (indexed by topic, or keyword with an on-site search engine) plus hundreds of scientific references on nutritional therapeutics are posted at http://doctoryourself.com  Links to other clinical nutrition and alternative medicine sites are provided. In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.10004041905460.20387- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > 2) I think Todd has a right to be heard. > It’s funny, you know, there are people who complain that the skeptics give > Alt Med a bit of a hard time. Yet  t.g has done more to discredit alt med as > any sort of reasonable, common sense  approach to life than all of the > skeptics around here put together. For you to align yourself with him in > order to generate sufficient controversy to increase the no. of hits  to > your site seems a contemptibly low thing to do. > k > Well said, Ms. K.  With friends like TG and "Doctor" S., alt. med doesn’t > need enemies like Happy Dog and me.  They do our job for us, explifying > some of the worst aspects of the "alternative" movement.  It’s a darn > shame, because there are so many smart, educated, thoughtful people trying > to do legitimate work in alternative therapies, at places like my own > purportedly baby-butchering university (where we have one of the first and > best NIH-funded alternative cancer treatment research centers). > Anyway, Saul thinks a few thousand hits are a big deal.  Shows how small > he thinks.  Wait til 20/20 airs, complete with the URL for my site. My > newly updated sinusitis site will get more hits in a week than Saul’s has > had in a year.  Think i ought to put some Saul-exposing verbiage up there > for them to see?  Nah, it would send to manyt of them there for a look — > and a laugh.  If the guy continues to rely on the usenet for publicity, > he’s not going to get very far in the cyber game. > Hope you are very well. Caught the show lately?  Apparently, ABC news > plans to film me doing my show too, for color. > AF

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> Well! G’day! > Recap time: > 1) I’m a quack. Don’t expect so much from the likes of me.

You made some claims re the value (albeit relative) of the merits of your doctorate and of the universtiy through which you attained it. Having done that, is it not a little irresponsible to then demonstrate a lack of basic research abilities – this does NOT reflect well on either your own qualifications nor on GU.  There are people who have credentials from various unaccredited learning institutions whom I do respect. "Quacks" in your book, no less.  People such as myself are evaluating the relative merits of "your" institution, based on what you post here. So far, I am not overly impressed. k

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> Well! G’day! > Recap time: > 1) I’m a quack. Don’t expect so much from the likes of me. > 2) I think Todd has a right to be heard.

Just out of interest,  are you too calling for "pardons in advance" for all MDs? Do you also see all MDs as abusers and liers? This is the underlying message he is purveying. k

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> 2) I think Todd has a right to be heard.

It’s funny, you know, there are people who complain that the skeptics give Alt Med a bit of a hard time. Yet  t.g has done more to discredit alt med as any sort of reasonable, common sense  approach to life than all of the skeptics around here put together. For you to align yourself with him in order to generate sufficient controversy to increase the no. of hits  to your site seems a contemptibly low thing to do. k

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > 2) I think Todd has a right to be heard. > It’s funny, you know, there are people who complain that the skeptics give > Alt Med a bit of a hard time. Yet  t.g has done more to discredit alt med as > any sort of reasonable, common sense  approach to life than all of the > skeptics around here put together. For you to align yourself with him in > order to generate sufficient controversy to increase the no. of hits  to > your site seems a contemptibly low thing to do. > k > Well said, Ms. K.  With friends like TG and "Doctor" S., alt. med doesn’t > need enemies like Happy Dog and me.  They do our job for us, explifying > some of the worst aspects of the "alternative" movement.  It’s a darn > shame, because there are so many smart, educated, thoughtful people trying > to do legitimate work in alternative therapies, at places like my own > purportedly baby-butchering university (where we have one of the first and > best NIH-funded alternative cancer treatment research centers). > Anyway, Saul thinks a few thousand hits are a big deal.  Shows how small > he thinks.  Wait til 20/20 airs, complete with the URL for my site.   My > newly updated sinusitis site will get more hits in a week than Saul’s has > had in a year.  Think i ought to put some Saul-exposing verbiage up there > for them to see?  Nah, it would send to manyt of them there for a look — > and a laugh.  If the guy continues to rely on the usenet for publicity, > he’s not going to get very far in the cyber game. > Hope you are very well. Caught the show lately?  Apparently, ABC news > plans to film me doing my show too, for color. > AF

Yeah, Thanks, AF – Love it muchly. (Missed one hr once thru Daylight Saving change,  that’s all) Keep well, k

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Dr. Saul hasn’t "aligned" himself with me – he’s said he’s been influenced a bit by me – and he’s said I have a right to be heard. If it is true that Dr. Saul did these things purely to generate "hits" on his website – then Dr. Saul is a SCURVY DOG – unless of course he’s been taking his taking Vit C! : ) Happy Dog is the scurvy dog – for failing to explain how Fox made a "definitive rebuttal" of my claims without examining my claims. See Happy Doggone "Logic" (also: My reply to Bowditch) Onward… >>><<<<I think Todd has a right to be heard.<<<<

Karuna replied: >>><<<<<It’s funny, you know, there are people who complain

that the skeptics give Alt Med a bit of a hard time. Yet t.g has done more to discredit alt med as any sort of reasonable, common sense approach to life than all of the skeptics around here put together.<<<< Todd D. Gastaldo, DC remarks: I know Karuna didn’t intend it as such, but I take this as a HIGH compliment. The KEY to understanding my sentiment here is knowing that **MDs** are the most numerous "alt-med" practitioners – peddlars of the most grisly (and numerous) "alt-med" (unproven) treatments… I have indeed been discrediting the HUGE MD end of "alt-med"!!! So far the chiropractic trade unions have been silent. They apparently fear MDs – likely because of x-ray/subluxation sabotage begun in 1972 and documented in 1986. The sabotage was so serious that in the Oct. 1986 issue of ACA Journal, ACA General Counsel Harry Rosenfeld recommended that DCs give up on vertebral subluxation and stop their opposition to "inoculation." 1986 just HAPPENED to be the year MDs were making their second bid for virtual immunity from liability for their obviously dishonest mass vaccination behavior. See… AAP’s deletion sucks DCs should promote DAILY immunizations – the ultimate in immunologic adjusting DCs are *almost* in the club… The House of Medicine: Are DCs finally welcome? http://www.remarq.com/read/14325/qAMxbW7sziIAAAAAA Fox’s MD "quackdaddies" (Barrett and Sampson – both CSICOP Fellows) have worked long and hard to create the FALSE public perception that *non-MDs* constitute the majority of "alt-med" practitioners… FACT: Fox and his MD "quackdaddies" are themselves quacks – by their own definition! See… Columbia quack (Prof. Fox) helps Gastaldo… CSICOP fraud/Rebecca Long/Therapeutic Touch Columbia’s Prof. Fox – and Hitler and Lenin – and Genghis Khan… I say again: **MDs** are the most numerous "alt-med" practitioners – peddlars of the most grisly (and numerous) "alt- med" (unproven) treatments… And they should be forgiven. See "Hegemonic" MDs/Prof. Fox and idiocy Karuna concludes… >>><<<<[Dr. Saul]for you to align yourself with [Gastaldo] in

order to generate sufficient controversy to increase the no. of hits to your site seems a contemptibly low thing to do.<<<<< Dr. Saul hasn’t "aligned" himself with me – he’s said he’s been influenced a bit by me – and he’s said I have a right to be heard. If it is true that Dr. Saul did these things purely to generate "hits" on his website – then Dr. Saul is a SCURVY DOG – unless of course he’s been taking his taking Vit C! : ) I again thank Karuna for responding to Dr. Saul’s remark about me. Todd D. Gastaldo, D.C. 8948 SW Barbur Blvd Box 6 Portland, OR 97219 FAX (815) 366-2814 TEL (503) 640-0456 http://www.egroups.com/group/chiro-list * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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I am NOT saying ALL MDs are abusers and liars – (or that they are all "murderers" as Fox once pejorized as he fraudulently had me censored). >>><<<<I think Todd has a right to be heard.<<<<

Karuna asked: >>>><<<<Just out of interest, are you too calling for "pardons

in advance" for all MDs?  Do you also see all MDs as abusers and liars? This is the underlying message he is purveying.<<<< Todd D. Gastaldo, DC responds: Why NOT forgive all MDs?  They were sucked into – then forced through – the mental meat grinder called medical school! I am NOT saying ALL MDs are abusers and liars – or murderers – as Fox once said. MOST American MDs and many MDs elsewhere – Australia for example – ARE – directly or indirectly – ignoring infant screams and and laws and ethical guidelines – as some of their fellows GROSSLY abuse infants – THOUSANDS per day… I just publicly notified two Canadian MDs of other abuse which is occurring… See Consumer Pressures/Episiotomy/ACOG I haven’t heard back from them yet – even though the grisly biomechanics are SIMPLE to understand… See Make a big episiotomy/Suprapubic insanity… ..even though American MDs indirectly ADMIT they are KILLING with the grisly biomechanics (see just cited URL) ..even though one British MD DIRECTLY admits that – via the same grisly biomechanics – MD-obstetricians are causing shoulder dystocia – the birth complication MD-obstetricians fear most… See MDs fear this/OBs on shoulder dystocia It’s a TRULY MASSIVE obstetric emergency – yet MDs are dragging their feet. We should ALL be in favor of pardons for them – they are STILL in the mental meatgrinder – even though – or rather BECAUSE – they graduated medical school… Right here on misc.health.alternative, Jonathan R. Fox, MD lied – then STONEWALLED his lie – as American male infants scream and writhe and bleed en masse – THOUSANDS of times per day. See Jonathan R. Fox/Stupid MD Neurology Trick… Jonathan R. Fox, MD also lied about his trade union’s behavior in regard to American medicine’s mass IMMUNOLOGIC child abuse. Primatologist Sierchio – a SCIENTIST! – proclaimed that breast- feeding is NOT immunization! (Sierchio’s emphasis) See Breastfeeding = IMMUNIZATION: What an ODD Innocenti Declaration omission! As I noted in my post to Columbia University President George Rupp (one of Fox’s employers)… >>>>>BEGIN excerpt "Hegemonic" MDs/Prof. Fox and idiocy

>>><<<<Calling for pardons in advance for MDs is the main point

of this post… >>><<<<Much in medicine is good – but it SHOULD be good because

MDs have a monopoly on doing good medical and surgical things – a monopoly which they have GROSSLY abused to engage in mass criminal abuse.  Calling for pardons in advance simultaneously identifies the MD behavior as a crime and urges governors and the President to IMMEDIATELY take action to protect both MDs and children – in accord with state and federal clemency and child protection statutes…<<<< See "Hegemonic" MDs/Prof. Fox and idiocy We should ALL be calling for pardons in advance for MDs… Again, I thank Karuna for responding to Dr. Saul’s remark about me… Todd D. Gastaldo, D.C. 8948 SW Barbur Blvd Box 6 Portland, OR 97219 FAX (815) 366-2814 TEL (503) 640-0456 http://www.egroups.com/group/chiro-list * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Karuna and Happy Dog pant their appreciation of Fox’s lies… So sad. How wonderful though that two Canadian MDs are suggesting that CONSUMER PRESSURE should be exerted to end routine episiotomy! Consumer Pressures/Episiotomy/ACOG It lifts my spirits to think that an end to fetal skull squashing could be right around the corner! Onward! >>><<<<You know, folks, I’ve been here the whole time reading

Todd and Aaron posts and, try as I might, I cannot see where Aaron was ever *viciously harassed by Mr. Gastaldo.* For a linguist and lyricist, dem’s strong words, and inaccurate ones, too.<<<< Karuna replied: >>>><<<<<Well well, Saul. You have have just succeeded in

achieving what all of AF’s disparagement of your ‘qualifications’ failed to do – to convince me of the utter worthlessness of your degree.<<<< http://www.remarq.com/read/14325/q_RS_6vxtJp8C-_fa#LR TRANSLATED:  Even one of Fox’s staunchest supporters admits that he (Fox) fails to convince regarding the "utter worthlessness" of Dr. Saul’s degree. Karuna continues… >>><<<<<In this one post you have shown that you are either

incapable of doing, or too lazy to do, the small amount of research necessary to clarify this situation.<<<< It *is* rather hard to do research (Fox and Karuna call research "stalking") now that Fox has taken down his posts – which is exactly WHY Fox took down his posts… Karuna continues… >>><<<< And the fact that you would leap into this discussion

without bothering to undertake such research reinforces my initial opinion that your motivations in posting are self serving and opportunistic.<<<<< HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! That was a GOOD one Karuna! Dr. Saul didn’t research er "stalk" Fox properly… At least Fox isn’t lobbing HIS ad hominem from behind a filter. Anyone interested in Karuna’s dishonesty… See… Karuna = Inconsistency/Todd ‘completely lacks sincerity’? Karunalogic II/CSICOP fraud See also Blaming Mimi/GTE Foxwatch #1 In Blaming Mimi, I document Karuna claiming I want people to physically attack MDs when in fact I want people to FORGIVE MDs… This culture enticed them to go to – then forced them through – a mental meatgrinder called medical school… Speaking of Blaming Mimi… I see a new post from Happy Dog – who joined Fox in attacking Mimi – Fox used "Todd’s boyfriend"/"dunghole" ad hominem and Happy Dog used "bend over bitch" ad hominem… In response to Dr. Saul writing, >>><<<<You know, folks, I’ve been here the whole time reading

Todd and Aaron posts and, try as I might, I cannot see where Aaron was ever *viciously harassed by Mr. Gastaldo*<<<< >>><<<<<It wasn’t just here. You didn’t read enough.<<<<

HO!  This *is* funny!  Now Happy Dog is saying that Dr. Saul didn’t research er "stalk" enough! Happy Dog is the mutt who used "logic" to claim that his fellow canine Fox made a "definitive rebuttal" of my claims without even addressing my claims! See Happy Doggone "Logic" (also: My reply to Bowditch) I thank Karuna and Happy Dog for weighing in… They are dishonest and indirect – but I appreciate that they took the time to reply to Dr. Saul’s remark about me. I am "harassing" Fox and Karuna and Happy Dog ONLY in the sense that ALL liars feel harassed when their lies are exposed – especially when their lies help to perpetuate mass human suffering. Todd D. Gastaldo, D.C. 8948 SW Barbur Blvd Box 6 Portland, OR 97219 FAX (815) 366-2814 TEL (503) 640-0456 http://www.egroups.com/group/chiro-list POSTSCRIPT Somehow I missed Fox’s "widdle feewings" pejoration of Dr. Saul… >>><<<<Your widdle feewings are hurt by the drubbing you take

on the group from me, it seems.<<<< Fox’s "drubbing" of Dr. Saul included publicly saying that he e- mailed a whole newsgroup thread to the university at which Dr. Saul taught! Fox "drubbed" further by claiming that HE would never do such a thing – when in fact Fox had said he HAD done such a thing! See Fox to sue?/When Fox started ‘quackbusting’/Linguist Fox got his tensestangled If Dr. Saul’s feelings WERE hurt (this I doubt), of all people Fox should understand because Fox got HIS "widdle feewings" hurt when I e-mailed his "fucking idiot" post including my response – to one of his employers, CU Pres. Rupp… Fox went into a FRENZY calling me everything from "truly evil" to "flaming psychotic"… At one point he responded that Rupp (a Trustee) wasn’t one of his employers! As Fox continues his lies, babies right there at his university are having more than their "widdle feewings" hurt. The are screaming, writhing and bleeding at the hands of MDs whose trade union recently lied (again) for them… Fox continues… >>><<<<…But what happens on the newsgroup is for the most

part anything-goes public discourse. If all TG ever did was post his tiresome, endless, boring, attacking screeds without entering into my personal life or my career, I’d give less than two sh*ts.<<<< Gosh, less than two "sh*ts"!!! Hmmmm… If Fox had not posted from his columbia.edu account, I would not have known that he is a cultural authority – an academic – a faculty member at a public university that employs MDs who engage in MAJOR quackery. FACT:  I did not "stalk" Fox to find out these things… I RESEARCHED (research is "stalking" when Fox is the subject)… I found out what a LIAR Fox is… I published the results of my RESEARCH. I included Deja.com archive URLs to people could CHECK my research. Which is why Fox took most of his posts down from the Deja.com archive… In the middle of it all, I found out the hard way that Ethnomusicologist Fox will CENSOR – in violation of ethnomusicologist ideals… "Ethnomusicologist ‘Quackbuster’ censors; perpetuates infant screams"… Ultimately, Fox ran – mothers and babies be damned. Then he came back and LIED again. See Deciphering Columbia’s Aaron Fox, PhD And now he continues his lies… In failing to quackbust, Fox apes his MD "quackdaddies" – Barrett and Sampson. See… Columbia quack (Prof. Fox) helps Gastaldo… CSICOP fraud/Rebecca Long/Therapeutic Touch Meanwhile, Karuna and Happy Dog pant their appreciation of Fox’s lies… So sad. How wonderful though that two Canadian MDs are suggesting that CONSUMER PRESSURE should be exerted to end routine episiotomy! Consumer Pressures/Episiotomy/ACOG It lifts my spirits to think that an end to fetal skull squashing could be right around the corner! Todd D. Gastaldo, D.C. 8948 SW Barbur Blvd Box 6 Portland, OR 97219 FAX (815) 366-2814 TEL (503) 640-0456 http://www.egroups.com/group/chiro-list * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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> You know, folks, I’ve been here the whole time reading Todd and Aaron > posts and, try as I might, I cannot see where Aaron was ever *viciously > harassed by Mr. Gastaldo

It wasn’t just here.  You didn’t read enough. erf

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> 1) I’m a quack. Don’t expect so much from the likes of me.

You’re a fraud and a disgrace to alternative, or any kind of legitimate, medicine.  Post that in your own words and everyone will be satisfied, or better informed. erf > 5) Aaron has chosen to charge my flag repeatedly.  The controversy has, > I’ll admit once again, brought record traffic to > http://doctoryourself.com . This means people are reading the articles > and learning about orthomolecular physicians and clinical nutrition > research.  That is my purpose.

Then there are unwitting victims.  But there isn’t a better way to ferret the truth. erf

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Thanks for the info. I don’t have anything I want to delete at this time.

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You know, folks, I’ve been here the whole time reading Todd and Aaron posts and, try as I might, I cannot see where Aaron was ever *viciously harassed by Mr. Gastaldo.* For a linguist and lyricist, dem’s strong words, and inaccurate ones, too. For example, it seems that Aaron has, outside of this newsgroup, tried to get http://doctoryourself.com disqualified as an HONCODE recommended health website. He has failed in that, of course, but would that be an example of *vicious harassment*?  I would say no, but what if you put Todd’s name on Aaron’s posts, I bet Aaron would complain long and loud about what *they* said. — Over 100 articles (indexed by topic, or keyword with an on-site search engine) plus hundreds of scientific references on nutritional therapeutics are posted at http://doctoryourself.com Links to other clinical nutrition and alternative medicine sites are provided. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Sorry to indulge my "psychosis" Fox – but you *are* a self- > acclaimed top "quackbuster" – and MD quacks *are* lying – as MD > quacks right there at your own university are making infants > scream and writhe and bleed… > Kip King read my post about Fox’s deletions and asked: >>>><<<<How does one delete one’s own posts? I didn’t know this > was possible.<<<< > http://www.remarq.com/read/14325/q_RS_6vxtJp8C- > _dh#transArt50067286 > Todd D. Gastaldo, DC remarks: > Axel Bruns indicates that one may PREVENT Deja.com archiving: >>>>><<<<<While apparently the inclusion of a header line "X- > noarchive: yes" may prevent articles from being archived by Deja > News, this isn’t advertised anywhere…<<<< > http://english.uq.edu.au/mc/9808/deja.html > Columbia’s Aaron A. Fox, PhD has deleted significant numbers of > posts from Deja.com. > He has also deleted from RemarQ.com. > I think I remember Fox saying recently that posts deleted from > RemarQ.com take significantly longer to disappear… > It was thanks to RemarQ’s slowness that I was able to find a > copy of a post that Fox had deleted from the Deja.com archive… > In that post, Fox may be seen bragging about censoring me and > encouraging a Mr. Nitzberg to sue me because I indulge a > "psychosis." >>>>Dear MR NITZBERG, > Yes, I am the same Aaron Fox. I have been viciously harassed by > Mr. Gastaldo and have taken several actions in response, > including getting him dropped from one ISP (teleport.com). I > would like to see legal action taken against this man for > stalking and harassment, although I have not yet initiated any > such action. I would be interested in such action, in > conjunction with others too…I take it that you have had some > dealings wit Gastaldo? I do hope you are not working in his > defense; if so, please do me the courtesy of discloing > your intentions and we can cease to have any contact herewith. > If, however, you are one of many people who has a gripe about > Gastaldo and would like to talk about working together to stop > him from indulging his psychosis on the usenet and private > email, let me know. Sincerely, Aaron Fox<<<< > Prof. Fox and Happy Dog had just harassed Mimi with "Todd’s > boyfriend"/"dunghole"/"bend over bitch" ad hominem… > See Blaming Mimi/GTE Foxwatch #1 > Aaron, why not share your deletion methods? > Maybe you could write a Deletion FAQ if one doesn’t already > exist… > First, though, why not forward the SINGLE E-MAIL I’ve asked you > to forward to Columbia Univ. Faculty Senate Managing Secretary > Tom Mathewson? > See Deciphering Columbia’s Aaron Fox, PhD > Sorry to indulge my "psychosis" Fox – but you *are* a self- > acclaimed top "quackbuster" – and MD quacks *are* lying – as MD > quacks right there at your own university are making infants > scream and writhe and bleed and sometimes die… > Please help them, Fox. > Todd D. Gastaldo, D.C. > 8948 SW Barbur Blvd > Box 6 > Portland, OR 97219 > FAX (815) 366-2814 > TEL (503) 640-0456 > http://www.egroups.com/group/chiro-list > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Copied to Columbia University Senate Managing Secretary Tom Mathewson… (Mr. Mathewson, I discuss your requirements for "outsider" input again below.  Prof. Fox doesn’t seem to understand.) FOX PICTURE!!! http://home1.gte.net/gastaldo/doc1.htm Note the label: >>><<<<<Picture of Columbia University Prof. (and private

"Quackbuster") Aaron Fox Ph.D. diagnosing GCA President Dr. Todd Gastaldo as a "truly evil","flaming psychotic" who indulges in "psychosis" on the usenet.<<<< http://home1.gte.net/gastaldo/doc1.htm Fox whimpers in effect (see below) that I PURPORT to picture him with his head up his ass… Fox conveniently "forgets" to mention that he purports to be able to diagnose – and THAT’S why I purport to picture him with his head up his ass while making his diagnosis! : ) I just now noted on another thread that Fox’s fellow canine LIAR Happy Dog (for Happy Dog’s lying on behalf of Fox, see URL below) – PURPORTS to be honest as he suggests that Dr. Andrew Saul, PhD is not… Happy Dog writes to Dr. Saul… >>><<<<…you intentionally mislead people by referring to

yourself as "Doctor", when you know full well that many will interpret this to mean that you are a medical doctor, makes a good case for calling you a phony.<<<<< http://www.remarq.com/read/14325/qAPPDyJ-fiYgC-_fM#LR Happy Dog IGNORED *my* point about phonies on the same thread. >>><<<<BEGIN what Happy Dog ignored<<<<<

Prof. Aaron A. Fox wrote to Dr. Andrew Saul, <<<<[T]he point is…[you ain't]…qualified to have a PROFESSIONAL opinion…because you aren’t a licensed, credentialed medical professional.<<<< http://www.remarq.com/read/14325/qAPPDyJ-fiYgC-_e2?idx=26 Todd D. Gastaldo, DC remarks: Prof. Fox always "forgets" to mention that licensed medical professionals are ILLEGITIMATE authorities because they are telling OBVIOUS LIES: 1. AS INFANTS SCREAM AND WRITHE AND BLEED AND SOMETIMES DIE… 2. AS FETAL SKULLS ARE SQUASHED, BRAINS PINCHED, SHOULDERS TRAPPED… Prof. Fox, too, is telling obvious lies. Worse, as infants scream, Prof. Fox IGNORES bald lies – both his own AND those told by the medical authorities to whom he appeals. Prof. Fox is therefore an ILLEGITIMATE authority every bit as illegitimate as the lying medical authorities he so reveres… Prof. Fox’s illegitimacy is only worsened by his aping of obviously fraudulent MD health fraud opponents. See… Columbia quack (Prof. Fox) helps Gastaldo… CSICOP fraud/Rebecca Long/Therapeutic Touch >>>><<<<<END what Fox’s canine bud Happy Dog ignored<<<<<

Onward to Fox’s most recent criticism of Gastaldo… >>><<<<Among the various things [Gastaldo] has done: sending

long, vicious screeds to multiple colleagues with no supervisory status over me, unsolicited;…<<<< http://www.remarq.com/read/14325/q_RS_6vxtJp8C-_e4#LR FALSE… I sent ONE COPY (of ONE reply to Fox’s "fucking idiot" post) to eight (8) people in Fox’s department, none of whom complained. See Wolf at the door? No, only a Fox… Those eight (8) people in Fox’s department STILL haven’t complained; so contrary to Fox’s claims – under my former ISP’s user agreement I could still send e-mails to them – but I don’t – because the CU Senate has an online mechanism by which "outsiders" may make input.  See below… What Fox calls a "vicious screed" was really a rather tepid RESPONSE to Fox’s "fucking idiot" attack on my recommendation that MDs be pardoned in advance… Here is my ostensibly "vicious" response to Fox’s "fucking idiot" attack: "Hegemonic" MDs/Prof. Fox and idiocy This just cited post was also sent to (actually ADDRESSED to) Columbia University President George Rupp who DOES have "supervisory status" over Fox. (This is the SECOND time Fox has (erroneously) indicated publicly that CU Trustee Rupp has no supervisory status.) CU Pres. Rupp also happens to be CU SENATE Pres. Rupp – and – under the CU Senate Bylaws – the CU Senate may examine the behavior of ANY behavior of ANY faculty member (including Fox) – and make appropriate recommendations to CU Trustee Rupp and his fellow CU Trustees – who have the power to fire obvious liars like Fox. I do NOT, though, want Fox fired. I want Fox EITHER to offer substantive criticism – he has FAILED to do this even as he has Happy Dog lie for him…see Happy Doggone "Logic" (also: My reply to Bowditch) OR I want Fox to finally behave as a responsible academic and "quackbuster" and bust OBVIOUS quackery right there at his own university… See… CSICOP fraud/Rebecca Long/Therapeutic Touch Deciphering Columbia’s Aaron Fox, PhD As noted at this just-cited URL, the Columbia University (CU) Senate offers an online mechanism for "outsiders" to make input. Accordingly, this post is being copied to CU Senate Managing Secretary Tom Mathewson… Prof. Fox continues… >>><<<<[Gastaldo has been - TDG] peppering the office of my

university’s president with messages that at least appeared to impugn the safety of his children;…<<<< Fox is probably referring to the FIRST message I sent to CU Pres. Rupp. Here is the URL again… "Hegemonic" MDs/Prof. Fox and idiocy More to the point (and more accurately) I ALSO made reference in the post in question to Rupp’s possible GRANDCHILDREN as I impugned the CLAIMS of safety – and the false inferences of necessity – of American medicine’s most frequent surgeries – both of which are senseless routine genital mutilations – one of which is related to senseless routine fetal skull squashing/brain pinching/shoulder trapping… If Fox drags his "quackbuster" feet much longer, CONSUMERS will run up his back and stop American medicine’s grisly most frequent surgical behaviors… Two Canadian MDs are in effect now calling on consumers to complain… See Consumer Pressures/Episiotomy/ACOG Prof. Fox continues… >>><<<<[Gastaldo is]…posting (publicly) information for

others seeking to do similar things;…<<<< Since Fox won’t forward the SINGLE E-MAIL that I demand he forward, I am forced by CU Senate policy to look for others who will… CU Managing Secretary Tom Mathewson says that the CU Senate accepts input from "outsiders" – but he requires that a CU Faculty member or CU student make the actual request that an "outsider’s" input be forwarded to the 100+ CU faculty senators. See Deciphering Columbia’s Aaron Fox, PhD Prof. Fox continues… >>>><<<<<[Gastaldo has been - TDG] having shills get in touch

with me, elicit emails critical of TG on the assumption that it is a private conversation, and then reposting the entire exchanges on the net;…<<<< Prof. Fox likely refers here to Mr. Nitzberg – who – if he is a "shill" – is NOT my shill. Mr. Nitzberg did however elicit privately from Fox an illegitimate/fraudulent diagnosis of "psychosis" – and a solicitation that Mr. Nitzberg should join him in suing me – in part based on the illegitimate/fraudulent diagnosis of "psychosis." Mr. Nitzberg’s post – and Fox’s reply encouraging Mr. Nitzberg to sue me – were sent to me with Mr. Nitzberg’s name taken out – so I posted – to call attention to Fox’s ongoing bizarre behavior. It was ***FOX*** who then publicly disclosed Mr. Nitzberg’s identity and then whined about me publicly exposing Fox’s use of his "psychosis" fraud to induce a lawsuit against me… Ethnomusicologist Fox used similar fraud in his lawsuit-threat- induced censorship of me in violation of ethnomusicologist ideals… See Ethnomusicologist "Quackbuster" censors; perpetuates infant screams… As I have indicated before, I have never met Mr. Nitzberg and I did not put Mr. Nitzberg up to making an inquiry. Prof. Fox continues… >>><<<<[Gastaldo]…post[ed] an offensive picture purportedly

representing me on his website…<<<< Fox asked: >>><<<<[W]here do I stop?<<<<<

Mention of the picture is a PERFECT place to stop! Here (again) is the URL for the picture purportedly representing Fox: http://home1.gte.net/gastaldo/doc1.htm Note that the picture is labelled: >>><<<<<Picture of Columbia University Prof. (and private

"Quackbuster") Aaron Fox Ph.D. diagnosing GCA President Dr. Todd Gastaldo as a "truly evil","flaming psychotic" who indulges in "psychosis" on the usenet.<<<< CONCLUSION "Quackbuster" Fox is not qualified to diagnose – and his posts were full of lies which I DOCUMENTED – which is why he took them down… Fox is embarrassed to admit this. Sad but understandable. But then again MDs are lying and infants are screaming – as Fox drags his "quackbuster" feet – and attempts to divert attention by attacking Dr. Andrew Saul, PhD… Todd D. Gastaldo, D.C. 8948 SW Barbur Blvd Box 6 Portland, OR 97219 FAX (815) 366-2814 TEL (503) 640-0456 http://www.egroups.com/group/chiro-list * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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(You know, the lad does turn quite a phrase!) Aaron, recalling that 1) I am a quack. 2)I am not here to change you personally, or your mind, about anything. 3)I am here to create interest through controversy, to which you have generously donated, and for which I publicly thank you once more. — Over 100 articles (indexed by topic, or keyword with an on-site search engine) plus hundreds of scientific references on nutritional therapeutics are posted at http://doctoryourself.com , an HONcode site. Links to other clinical nutrition and alternative medicine sites are provided. In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.10004040915060.6644- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You know, folks, I’ve been here the whole time reading Todd and Aaron > posts and, try as I might, I cannot see where Aaron was ever *viciously > harassed by Mr. Gastaldo.* For a linguist and lyricist, dem’s strong > words, and inaccurate ones, too. > For example, it seems that Aaron has, outside of this newsgroup, tried > to get http://doctoryourself.com disqualified as an HONCODE recommended > health website. He has failed in that, of course, but would that be an > example of *vicious harassment*? I would say no, but what if you put > Todd’s name on Aaron’s posts, I bet Aaron would complain long and loud > about what *they* said. > Are you stupid or wilfully ignorant or both? You post the HONcode seal, > you place yourself in the public eye as a provider of health information, > (calling yourself "doctor" no less), then you invite people to check your > credentials and report violations of the HONcode (or perceived violations) > principles detected on your site. I’ve been back in touch with them, by > the way. > Among the various things TG has done: sending long, vicious screeds to > multiple colleagues with no supervisory status over me, unsolicited; > peppering the office of my university’s president with messages that at > least appeared to impugn the safety of his children; posting (publicly) > information for others seeking to do similar things; having shills get in > touch with me, elicit emails critical of TG on the assumption that it is a > private conversation, and then reposting the entire exchanges on the net; > posting an offensive picture purportedly representing me on his website . > . . where do I stop? > Now what have I done to you except engage in a sustained critique of your > self-representation (misrepresentation) publicly on the newsgroup; > complain to HONcode that your website violated the principles (you post > the HONcode seal, which purports to guarantee the quality and honesty of > your site); and politely and briefly query your chair to confirm your > claim of a teaching appointment (completely normal academic > correspondence, as I have said a hundred times)? Your widdle feewings are > hurt by the drubbing you take on the group from me, it seems. But what > happens on the newsgroup is for the most part anything-goes public > discourse. If all TG ever did was post his tiresome, endless, boring, > attacking screeds without entering into my personal life or my career, I’d > give less than two sh*ts. You, on the other hand, have a public > persona: you represent yourself as a "doctor" peddling books and other > forms of "health advice" on the web, using your faculty position (such as > it is) as a source of validation for your identity, and the hONcode seal > to get people to trust you. > The fact that you cannot — or refuse to — see the difference, and that > you continue to align yourself with a psycho of the highest order reflects > badly on you, "Doc." Once again, you prove yourself the > passive-aggressive churl I always thought you were. I hurt your ego and > your bottom line just by posting on this group. That’s really amazing, > isn’t it? Think about it, and then get a life. > AF

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Kip, in Netscape one can right click on a post in the archive and "cancel message"  with a left double click. I’m not sure how the other browsers work. Connie Connie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > How does one delite one’s own posts? I didn’t know this was possible. > LOSE THE NIKES… > >>>><<<<There is no law against deleting one’s own posts froma > commercial archive, nor any ethical reason why one > shouldn’t,…<<<< > Todd D. Gastaldo, DC remarks: > Some of the posts Fox deleted contained lies which were > unethical – and since Fox took those posts down so that people > couldn’t check my work DOCUMENTING those lies – THAT was > unethical. > NOTE:  When one clicks on the URLs for Fox’s deleted posts – the > message is "Unavailable" – not "Lost – never to be seen again." > NOTE ALSO (regarding Fox’s ethics):  Ethnomusicologist Fox’s > first fraudulent censorship succeeded – in violation of > ethnomusicologist ideals. > See Ethnomusicologist "Quackbuster" censors; perpetuates infant > screams > >>>><<<<There is no law against deleting one’s own posts…nor > any potentially risky consequence.<<<< > There *MAY* be a "potentially risky consequence" to running… > The U.S. Supreme Court was reportedly "likely to conclude that > flight alone can give the cops ‘reasonable suspicion’ for a > stop," as in the following quote from The National Law Journal, > >>><<<<You see the police and you run. Are the police allowed to > chase you? It’s an elementary street law issue that the Supreme > Court has never decided. This term, it will-in Illinois v. > Wardlow, No. 98-1036. > >>>><<<<Here’s a tip for those who now flee to avoid interacting > with police: Lose the Nikes. The Court, which hears the case > Nov. 2, is likely to conclude that flight alone can give the > cops "reasonable suspicion" for a stop.<<<< > RUNNING FROM THE POLICE:  Are the police allowed to chase you? > It