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Alt vs Conv Med

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IMHO, Alt med should work With Conv. Med.  The big reason why the two don’t cooperate is because:  1) economics 2) ignorance Both sides are guilty. jay Hafner, DC Chiropractor

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not all alt. med info comes from shysters if you really are concerned whether a persons integrity is questionable ask specific things about their company!!  if they can t give absolute documentation instead of just they re out in space opinion to a legit  ??? then the choice is yours to either listen or DELETE

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> Br> By the way, I don’t mean to say that I would weant a ‘nanny’ state > Br> (although probably in Europe we’d have a diffent attitude towards > Br> regulations). On the other hand, I also wouldn’t want people to make a > Br> ‘wrong’ (i.e. dangerous) choice because of lack of knowledge. That’s > Br> all. So, I would want the potentially dangerous formulations to have > Br> at least a safety dossier. >     But remember that conv med docs’ lack of nutritional medical >     knowledge means they may NOT offer their patients the best >     solution.

That’s an opinion I don’t agree with. The problem with this sort of argument is that it’ll amount to a yes/no argument so we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one. > Br> The dangers of herbal medicine are very clear: In Belgium, quack have > Br> prescribed some Chinese herbs that caused renal failure. That’s not > Br> something to dismiss. Look at the site of your local quackwatchers and > Br> you’ll find many examples. That’s all. >     And why do not conv med docs possess knowledge on the application >     of herbal medicine?

Because, as I said earlier, the compounds that seem to have a biological action are isolated from the herb, purified and made into simple (single) formulations. That way, quality and quantity are well controlled. There’s no need for doctors to treat with herbs as they have acces to the pure compounds. — Robert Bronsing

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JB> As long as I know that it is potentially dangerous, and so is my JB> car of course, then I am quite happy.   The decision is in the JB> right hands, mine. Br> The difference is John, that you are licensed to drive a car. You were Br> educated to drive it. The general public is not educated in matters of Br> drug safety (which happens to be a difficult subject). Br> By the way, I don’t mean to say that I would weant a ‘nanny’ state Br> (although probably in Europe we’d have a diffent attitude towards Br> regulations). On the other hand, I also wouldn’t want people to make a Br> ‘wrong’ (i.e. dangerous) choice because of lack of knowledge. That’s Br> all. So, I would want the potentially dangerous formulations to have Br> at least a safety dossier.     But remember that conv med docs’ lack of nutritional medical     knowledge means they may NOT offer their patients the best     solution. Br> The dangers of herbal medicine are very clear: In Belgium, quack have Br> prescribed some Chinese herbs that caused renal failure. That’s not Br> something to dismiss. Look at the site of your local quackwatchers and Br> you’ll find many examples. That’s all.     And why do not conv med docs possess knowledge on the application     of herbal medicine? … End  of  message                                   28 Feb 01  01:37 ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR]

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Sn> I’m not sure I’ll ever fully understand why so many people seem to be Sn> so angry with conventional medicine.     Because conventional medicine does NOT apply natural methods FIRST     (such as diet & mutritional medicine) in resolving a health problem.     Conv med docs only use the pharm drug med method.     Do you understand better now? … End  of  message                                   02 Mar 01  04:16 ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR]

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Sn> Rosemary Jacobs had a good point when she said that people tend to Sn> turn to shysters because the shysters aren’t afraid to lie.  If a     Folks turn to so-called alt med "shysters" because the medical     establishment does NOT train doctors in the use and application     of vitamin/mineral nutritional medicine concepts in solving     sickness. Sn> I truly believe part of the reason alternative medicine is becoming so Sn> popular is because some outrageous claims are being made, some lies are Sn> being told, and it’s human nature to want to believe that there is a Sn> cure or hope.     If conv med used nutritional [not pharm drug] medicine to treat     sickness, alt med would merge itself into conv med. … End  of  message                                   28 Feb 01  01:19 ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR]

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<"Conv med docs only use the pharm drug med method.">  You’re painting a rather broad brush stroke with that statement.  I’ll have to be sure to tell my own doctor, who utilizes traditional treatments, recommendations for healthy nutrition, and lifestyle/behavior recommendations that he must be Michele

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