Chiropractic Healthiness

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>Since then she has given away her microwave (so have I).  The moral of the >story? Figure it out yourself.

That you are extremely gullible, and that kinesiology works by the power of suggestion? What do I win?   — David Wright :: wright at ibnets.com :: Not a Spokesman for Anyone      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.      While the unexamined life may not be worth living, the over-      examined life is not being lived.

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>Not that I’m on one side or another of the microwave debate, but this URL >relates to the dicsussion here: >http://www.all-natural.com/microwa1.html

The article contained in that web site has been mentioned before on this newsgroup.  It was pseudo-scientific gibberish before and it still is.  I’m particularly fond of the claim that microwaves from the sun are produced by DC currents and are therefore harmless, whereas microwave ovens use AC and produce dangerous microwaves.   — David Wright :: wright at ibnets.com :: Not a Spokesman for Anyone      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.      While the unexamined life may not be worth living, the over-      examined life is not being lived.

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writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >: A friend of mine had been told to eat a specific combination of grains by her >: nutritionist.  She was doing so but was not getting the expected result.  When >: the nutritionist questioned her it turned out she was cooking the grains in a >: microwave, not on the stove.  The nutritionist instructed her to begin cooking >: them on the stove because the microwave changed them so they were not good for >: her body.  My friend didn’t believe the nutritionist. >: The nutritionist told her to bring in two containers, one with the grains >: cooked on the stove and one with the grains cooked in the microwave.  My friend >: did that. The containers were identical.  My friend did not tell the >: nutritionist which had been cooked in the microwave.  The nutritionist did >: muscle testing and was able to tell my friend which was microwaved and which >: was cooked normally because of the results of the muscle test.  My friend >: didn’t believe it.  She left the nutritionists office and then returned a >: couple of minutes later.  The nutritionist’s tests again immediately told her >: which had been cooked on the stove top and which had been microwaved.  My >: friend finally agreed that the nutritionist knew what she was talking about and >: began to cook the grains on the stove top.  The condition she was initially >: trying to handle disappeared quickly.

Comment:      The problem with muscle testing is that it’s like trying to lie to a polygraph.  If the person getting tested knows which container is which, and feels guilty, anybody with a little sensivity can tell what they are holding or eating.  It just shows.    When you blind such tests so that neither rater no ratee knows what they have (coded samples) muscle testing turns out to not work at all. I did that once to a chiropractor myself, and embarrassed him badly enough that I think he gave it up permanently.    This is not to say that muscle testing doesn’t have its place, in trying to tell what people feel guilty about doing, and are going to be less anxious about if they give up.  It’s a route to the subconscious, not unlike the Ouija board.  But that needs to be understood.  If you think it has to do with chemistry, or your doctor does, you’re looking at a quack.  Stay away from such people, unless they make it clear to you that they know they’re doing a mental test on your subconscious attitudes, and nothing else (yes, it still works on people with anxiety even if you know the mechanism behind it.  So does a polygraph).     And BTW, microwaves cause less nutrient loss than any other kind of cooking.  Many studies show this.  Any scientific nutritionist recommends this method above others.                                           Steve Harris, M.D.

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>nutritionist which had been cooked in the microwave.  The nutritionist did >muscle testing and was able to tell my friend which was microwaved and which >was cooked normally because of the results of the muscle test.  My friend >didn’t believe it.  She left the nutritionists office and then returned a >couple of minutes later.  The nutritionist’s tests again immediately told her >which had been cooked on the stove top and which had been microwaved.  My >friend finally agreed that the nutritionist knew what she was talking about and >began to cook the grains on the stove top.  The condition she was initially >trying to handle disappeared quickly.

Muscle testing?  Ordinary nutritionists do not use muscle testing (i.e. Applied Kinesiology) to evaluate anything. BTW, WRT the critical thinking abilities of Kiki Swift (a.k.a. SwiftlyFre), you should know she’s a member of the Church of Scientology.  For more information about CO$, check out http://www.xenu.net I especially recommend clicking on the Scientology Illustrated item.  That is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen in my life.  And it’s true, the Scientologists really do believe in all the nutty stuff depicted in that cartoon.

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A friend of mine had been told to eat a specific combination of grains by her nutritionist.  She was doing so but was not getting the expected result.  When the nutritionist questioned her it turned out she was cooking the grains in a microwave, not on the stove.  The nutritionist instructed her to begin cooking them on the stove because the microwave changed them so they were not good for her body.  My friend didn’t believe the nutritionist. The nutritionist told her to bring in two containers, one with the grains cooked on the stove and one with the grains cooked in the microwave.  My friend did that. The containers were identical.  My friend did not tell the nutritionist which had been cooked in the microwave.  The nutritionist did muscle testing and was able to tell my friend which was microwaved and which was cooked normally because of the results of the muscle test.  My friend didn’t believe it.  She left the nutritionists office and then returned a couple of minutes later.  The nutritionist’s tests again immediately told her which had been cooked on the stove top and which had been microwaved.  My friend finally agreed that the nutritionist knew what she was talking about and began to cook the grains on the stove top.  The condition she was initially trying to handle disappeared quickly. Since then she has given away her microwave (so have I).  The moral of the story? Figure it out yourself.

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